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	<title>Comments on: ID Comments Highlight Weak Science Education</title>
	<link>http://www.smugbaldy.com/2008/06/09/id-comments-highlight-weak-science-education/</link>
	<description>It&#39;s hard to think when you&#39;re not used to it.</description>
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		<title>By: Smug Baldy</title>
		<link>http://www.smugbaldy.com/2008/06/09/id-comments-highlight-weak-science-education/#comment-3935</link>
		<dc:creator>Smug Baldy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris: thanks for the compliment.  I appreciate it, as well as the support of the Academy :)

C. David Parsons: That's probably the most ambitious and articulate spam comment I've ever seen.  Also, as an apparent "Quantum Mechanics Denier" you appear to be falling prey to the same misconception that plague ID and Creationist proponents:  you apparently feel there is a religious alternative to QM, which reminds me of an &lt;a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;article that appeared in the Onion&lt;/a&gt; some time ago.  Face it - study and knowledge that relies on biblical authority can be many things, but science is not one of them.  Also, reinstating Classical Mechanics as the dominant paradigm in physics isn't going to be easy, and it won't help your missionary cause, since classical mechanics is incompatible with atomic theory (which appears to be correct, since we have atomic power and nuclear bombs) and more importantly - classical mechanics isn't supernatural, so championing it doesn't let you say anything about your interestingly quirky brand of theology.  Oh yeah, and there's still that whole constitutional Establishment Clause issue that you need to get past. My bet is, however, that since you're OK with 17th century science, you're probably OK with 17th century Democracy as well.  In which case you not only come off sounding like a zealot, you're also sound like an Un-American one as well. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris: thanks for the compliment.  I appreciate it, as well as the support of the Academy <img src='http://www.smugbaldy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>C. David Parsons: That&#8217;s probably the most ambitious and articulate spam comment I&#8217;ve ever seen.  Also, as an apparent &#8220;Quantum Mechanics Denier&#8221; you appear to be falling prey to the same misconception that plague ID and Creationist proponents:  you apparently feel there is a religious alternative to QM, which reminds me of an <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/node/39512" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">article that appeared in the Onion</a> some time ago.  Face it - study and knowledge that relies on biblical authority can be many things, but science is not one of them.  Also, reinstating Classical Mechanics as the dominant paradigm in physics isn&#8217;t going to be easy, and it won&#8217;t help your missionary cause, since classical mechanics is incompatible with atomic theory (which appears to be correct, since we have atomic power and nuclear bombs) and more importantly - classical mechanics isn&#8217;t supernatural, so championing it doesn&#8217;t let you say anything about your interestingly quirky brand of theology.  Oh yeah, and there&#8217;s still that whole constitutional Establishment Clause issue that you need to get past. My bet is, however, that since you&#8217;re OK with 17th century science, you&#8217;re probably OK with 17th century Democracy as well.  In which case you not only come off sounding like a zealot, you&#8217;re also sound like an Un-American one as well.</p>
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		<title>By: C. David Parsons</title>
		<link>http://www.smugbaldy.com/2008/06/09/id-comments-highlight-weak-science-education/#comment-3934</link>
		<dc:creator>C. David Parsons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.smugbaldy.com/2008/06/09/id-comments-highlight-weak-science-education/#comment-3934</guid>
		<description>THE BIGGER PICTURE IN THE DEBATE ON DARWINISM IS NOT INTELLIGENT DESIGN.
 
The reason is elementary:  the Discovery Institute and other ID proponents leave out the Triune God, Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Hence, Richard Dawkins can make the case for “aliens” seeding the earth.
 
The Quest for Right, a series of 7 textbooks created for the public schools, represents the ultimate marriage between an in-depth knowledge of biblical phenomena and natural and physical sciences. The several volumes have accomplished that which, heretofore, was deemed impossible:  to level the playing field between those who desire a return to physical science in the classroom and those who embrace the theory of evolution. The Quest for Right turns the tide by providing an authoritative and enlightening scientific explanation of natural phenomena which will ultimately dethrone the unprofitable Darwinian view.
   
"I am amazed at the breadth of the investigation - scientific history, biblical studies, geology, biology, geography, astronomy, chemistry, paleontology, and so forth - and find the style of writing to be quite lucid and aimed clearly at a general, lay audience." ? Mark Roberts, former Editor of Biblical Reference Books, Thomas Nelson Publishers.   

The Quest for Right series of books, based on physical science, the old science of cause and effect, has effectively dismantled the quantum additions to the true architecture of the atom. Gone are the nonexistent particles once thought to be complementary to the electron and proton (examples:  neutrons, neutrinos, photons, mesons, quarks, Z's, bosons, etc.) and a host of other pseudo particles. 
  
To the curious, scientists sought to explain Atomic theory by introducing fantastic particles that supposedly came tumbling out of the impact between two particles, when in fact, the supposed finds were simply particulate debris. There are only two elementary particles which make up the whole of the universe:  the proton and electron. All other particles were added via quantum magic and mathematical elucidation in an attempt to explain earthly phenomena without God. 
 
Introducing the scheme of coincidence, which by definition, "is the systematic ploy of obstructionists who, in lieu of any divine intervention, state that any coincidental grouping or chance union of electrons and protons (and neutrons), regardless of the configuration, always produces a chemical element.  This is the mischievous tenet of electron interpretation which states that all physical, chemical, and biological processes result from a change in the electron structure of the atom which, in turn, may be deciphered through the orderly application of mathematics, as outlined in quantum mechanics. A few of the supporting theories are:  degrading stars, neutron stars, black holes, extraterrestrial water, antimatter, the absolute dating systems, and the big bang, the explosion of a singularity infinitely smaller than the dot of an “i” from which space, time, and the massive stellar bodies supposedly sprang into being.
 
The Quest for Right is not only better at explaining natural phenomena, but also may be verified through testing. As a consequence, the material in the several volumes will not violate the so-called constitutional separation of church and state. Physical science, the old science of cause and effect, will have a long-term sustainability, replacing irresponsible doctrines based on whim. Teachers and students will rejoice in the simplicity of earthly phenomena when entertained by the new discipline. 
    
&lt;a href="http://questforright.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Quest for Right site&lt;/a&gt;.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE BIGGER PICTURE IN THE DEBATE ON DARWINISM IS NOT INTELLIGENT DESIGN.</p>
<p>The reason is elementary:  the Discovery Institute and other ID proponents leave out the Triune God, Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Hence, Richard Dawkins can make the case for “aliens” seeding the earth.</p>
<p>The Quest for Right, a series of 7 textbooks created for the public schools, represents the ultimate marriage between an in-depth knowledge of biblical phenomena and natural and physical sciences. The several volumes have accomplished that which, heretofore, was deemed impossible:  to level the playing field between those who desire a return to physical science in the classroom and those who embrace the theory of evolution. The Quest for Right turns the tide by providing an authoritative and enlightening scientific explanation of natural phenomena which will ultimately dethrone the unprofitable Darwinian view.</p>
<p>&#8220;I am amazed at the breadth of the investigation - scientific history, biblical studies, geology, biology, geography, astronomy, chemistry, paleontology, and so forth - and find the style of writing to be quite lucid and aimed clearly at a general, lay audience.&#8221; ? Mark Roberts, former Editor of Biblical Reference Books, Thomas Nelson Publishers.   </p>
<p>The Quest for Right series of books, based on physical science, the old science of cause and effect, has effectively dismantled the quantum additions to the true architecture of the atom. Gone are the nonexistent particles once thought to be complementary to the electron and proton (examples:  neutrons, neutrinos, photons, mesons, quarks, Z&#8217;s, bosons, etc.) and a host of other pseudo particles. </p>
<p>To the curious, scientists sought to explain Atomic theory by introducing fantastic particles that supposedly came tumbling out of the impact between two particles, when in fact, the supposed finds were simply particulate debris. There are only two elementary particles which make up the whole of the universe:  the proton and electron. All other particles were added via quantum magic and mathematical elucidation in an attempt to explain earthly phenomena without God. </p>
<p>Introducing the scheme of coincidence, which by definition, &#8220;is the systematic ploy of obstructionists who, in lieu of any divine intervention, state that any coincidental grouping or chance union of electrons and protons (and neutrons), regardless of the configuration, always produces a chemical element.  This is the mischievous tenet of electron interpretation which states that all physical, chemical, and biological processes result from a change in the electron structure of the atom which, in turn, may be deciphered through the orderly application of mathematics, as outlined in quantum mechanics. A few of the supporting theories are:  degrading stars, neutron stars, black holes, extraterrestrial water, antimatter, the absolute dating systems, and the big bang, the explosion of a singularity infinitely smaller than the dot of an “i” from which space, time, and the massive stellar bodies supposedly sprang into being.</p>
<p>The Quest for Right is not only better at explaining natural phenomena, but also may be verified through testing. As a consequence, the material in the several volumes will not violate the so-called constitutional separation of church and state. Physical science, the old science of cause and effect, will have a long-term sustainability, replacing irresponsible doctrines based on whim. Teachers and students will rejoice in the simplicity of earthly phenomena when entertained by the new discipline. </p>
<p><a href="http://questforright.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Quest for Right site</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.smugbaldy.com/2008/06/09/id-comments-highlight-weak-science-education/#comment-3933</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.smugbaldy.com/2008/06/09/id-comments-highlight-weak-science-education/#comment-3933</guid>
		<description>I want to complement your very cogent explanation of the distinctions between the scientific vs venacular meanings of the words Theory and Fact and how this seperates the Theory of Evolution from Intelligent Design.  

The national Academy of Sciences has a very concise definition of Science that reinforces your points:

Science is "the use of evidence to construct testable explanations and predictions of natural phenomena, as well as the knowledge generated through this process."

Theology is a perfectly legitimate intellectual discipline,  it simply is beyond the scope of science.  


- Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to complement your very cogent explanation of the distinctions between the scientific vs venacular meanings of the words Theory and Fact and how this seperates the Theory of Evolution from Intelligent Design.  </p>
<p>The national Academy of Sciences has a very concise definition of Science that reinforces your points:</p>
<p>Science is &#8220;the use of evidence to construct testable explanations and predictions of natural phenomena, as well as the knowledge generated through this process.&#8221;</p>
<p>Theology is a perfectly legitimate intellectual discipline,  it simply is beyond the scope of science.  </p>
<p>- Chris</p>
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